Re: Ноль в истории астрономии

Автор сообщения: gorm
Дата и время сообщения: 25 April 2007 at 11:04:02:

В ответ на сообщение: Кол(=единица) по астрономии

Южных созвездий не было вообще. Тогда-то [при иезуитах] и появляются уже южные астеризмы.
Обманывете(именно обманываете, поскольку не знать этого Вы не можете). Южных астеризмов у китайцев/корейцев до иезуитов не было вообще, а это что??

16 13.09.107 HU del CMa
20 07.12.185 NANMEN zet Cen
65 11.09.1065 TIANMIAO alp Pyx
66 11.09.1070 TIANQUN alp Cet

Это астеризмы, а не созвездия. Разницу понимаете? Ну то есть астрономам как-то надо было место помечать, китайцы звездный каталог составили еще в 3 веке. Так больше 200 астеризмов обозначено. Но их знали только специалисты. А созвездий в китайской традиционной астрономии только 28+3. Ни одного южного.

Не верите мне, почитайте на wikipedia:

"The divisions of the sky began with the Northern Dipper and the 28 mansions.

In early 1980s, a tomb was found at Xi Shui Po (西水坡) in Pu Yang, Henan Province. There were some clamshells and bones forming the images of the Azure Dragon, the [White Tiger] and the Northern Dipper. It is believed that the tomb belongs to the Neolithic Age, about 6,000 years ago.

Star names relating to the 28 lunar mansions were found on oracle bones dating back to the Wuding Period, about 3,200 years ago.

In 1978, a lacquer box was excavated from the tomb of Zeng Hou Yin in Suixian, Hubei Province. Names of the 28 lunar missions were found on the cover of the box, proofing that the use of this classification system was made before 433 BC.

As lunar mansions have such an ancient origin, the meaning of most of their names have become obscure. Even worse, name of each lunar mansion consists of only one Chinese word, and the meaning of which could vary at different times in history. So the meaning of the names are sill under discussion.

Besides 28 lunar mansions, most constellations are based on the works of [Shi Shen-fu] and Gan De, who were astrologists during the period of Warring States (481 BC - 221 BC) in China.

In the late period of the Ming Dynasty, the agricultural scientist and mathematician Xu Guangqi (1562 - 1633 AD) introduced 23 additional constellations which are near to the Celestial South Pole, which are based on star catalogues from the West (see Matteo Ricci)."

2598. Открытые уроки астрономии - Markab 14:28 24.04.07 (31)
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